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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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Albino Elephant 11/12/2018 9:40 PM
But if 3 systems are all acting up at once then chances are there is a good reason or there is mob mentality
9:40 PM
ie the hosts parroting the tulpas
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Well they're too stupid and disdainful towards each other to form a mob mentality.
9:47 PM
And I've attempted to figure out what's going on...Can a tulpa grow to have a host?
9:47 PM
Thanks for letting me know, they're energy vamps.
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@Beckett A sigil is a sort of symbol or something people meditate to in order to do things.
3:28 AM
[Im learning a lot]
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People will make one for like a money ritual, or to represent the wonderland and they pass it back and forth so they can travel to one another in the "astral".
3:30 AM
I think the biggest non-metaphysical and therefore "useful" use of a sigil is as a sort of icon, it can represent peace and be used to calm you down, or to represent some other trait that serves to inspire or make you want to do or feel something. Like a big ol' placebo
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[Im sorry what]
3:30 AM
[they use it for what now?]
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so, like, someone makes a sigil that represents their wonderland
3:30 AM
you get the sigil, and you "focus on it" or something of that sort to travel to their wonderland
3:31 AM
they do all sorts of stuff with sigils, it's like one of the metaphysical building blocks.
3:31 AM
This all to my knowledge, though, I'm not the most trustworthy source of information on the topic.
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 3:31 AM
Just think of it as a link to anything that was associated to the sigil
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[idk how it would help me travel to someones wonderland but ok]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 3:40 AM
Main use is locations in the astral, machine type things made by people, collecting energy for things
3:40 AM
stuff like that
3:42 AM
For instance a common use is sigilcraft where a person creates a sigil with an intent associated with it and any energy that comes into contact with that sigil is directed to the intention placed on it. Maybe for good luck, better chances on an exam, etc
3:42 AM
But another use could be making a cool place in the astral that you want to share with other people so you connect it to a sigil
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Can a sigil be any icon, or just a specific rune?
3:43 AM
For example, could you make a sigil out of a concept like a pocketwatch, rather than a shape of lines?
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[they said in the video that there is no wrong way]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 3:45 AM
Wait, I have a thing for this
3:46 AM
Sigil: An image or drawing of some sort which is used to link a spiritual object, place, entity to it so that people may find it through the sigil or they may use the sigil as a tool somehow.
3:46 AM
Sigilcraft: First of all, sigil shape doesn't matter almost at all except to the person using it. The only problem would be if you copied (purposefully or accidently) another sigil. In essence there are three things to focus on when utilizing sigilcraft: Getting the most focus on the sigil Getting the most will into the sigil Making the sigil part of your intent Focusing on the sigil while putting your will into it ensures that the most energy goes into it as possible vs just getting pushed out of your body. The more will that goes into the sigil means the more energy the sigil has to work with. Making the sigil part of your intent means that more of the energy in the sigil will be dedicated to the purpose of it. This means that continuously thinking of the purpose of the sigil while putting will/energy into it will put will make the sigil work better than just stating its purpose at the beginning or end. Now, a few mythbusters: Burning your sigil can help, but is not necessary. The best thing to do is to have it in a place you will see everyday until you are done with it so you can put as much will into it as possible. Jacking off to your sigil is weird and creepy. Don't do it. Although if you feel like you need to, it does actually work quicker than other methods, but I would rather spend an extra 10 minutes staring at the sigil. Sigils link to things and sigilcraft sigils are no exception. They link to the construct which is created to do your intent you put into the sigil. Not all sigils are made through sigilcraft. The practice of sigilcraft has a lot of misconceptions about it so be wary of them.
3:47 AM
And sigils can be any shape
3:47 AM
Even including colors
3:47 AM
I believe Psuedonym used to be in this server and he had a lot of sigils he made with pictures
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When you specify shape and color, could you make a sigil out of any sort of identifying concept, including stuff that isn't really a shape or a color? For example, the feeling of flipping a light switch?
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 3:51 AM
At that point it isn't a sigil because it isn't visual
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Is there an alternative concept?
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 3:51 AM
Not for feelings really, but that does occur
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[could you draw how it makes you feel to flip the light switch or something]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 3:51 AM
That would be making a sigil associated with that feeling
3:53 AM
So when feelings like that occur what happens is a bit of the energy from the person feeling it gets sent out into basically a universal current which occurs from all those people feeling those things. The reason the universal current occurs is just because that energy is sent out and gathers together because of how similar it is. That goes on to create elemental energies such as fire, water, light, etc.
3:53 AM
Elemental Energy: Energy with the properties of a certain element. This can make it work a lot better or worse at various tasks and also gives properties that will either conflict or coincide with other elements. This conflicting usually just cancels them out until one or neither of them are left. Conflicting will always go on a 1:1 scale in elements which are naturally opposites.
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[Lol what]
3:54 AM
[Im so fucking lost]
3:54 AM
[where are my feelings going?]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 3:57 AM
So like if you mix sand, rocks, pebbles, larger rocks together in a bowl and then either leave that bowl there for a really long time or gently shake it then the smallest will fall to the bottom and largest to the top separating them. Same concept.
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[Okay, but what is that the same concept to lol]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:00 AM
Feelings getting thrown out into the universe and then gathering into a current
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[Uh sure]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:04 AM
👌
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For what it's worth, I find the concept interesting.
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:05 AM
Definetely a strange idea and that is probably why it hasnt made it into any type of beginner material
4:05 AM
I didn't learn about it until years in
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[idk what youre saying]
4:06 AM
[idk what current youre talking about and shit]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:06 AM
So when feelings like that occur what happens is a bit of the energy from the person feeling it gets sent out into basically a universal current which occurs from all those people feeling those things.
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[what things]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:07 AM
feelings
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[how are the feelings seperated]
4:07 AM
[are anger feelings in one section?]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:08 AM
Like the rocks. They just kinda gather together
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[happy in another]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:08 AM
Essentially, yes
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[so happy and anger are together or seperate]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:08 AM
That is why you have gods and goddesses of certain feelings and ideas, because they associate more with those.
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[where are these currents of anger and happiness?]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:08 AM
They are separate in a sense
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[whao I was not ready for you to pull out gods and shit lmao]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:09 AM
I mean you can view them just as spirits for a lesser connotation
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[I mean I dont think those are real either, so it doesnt matter]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:10 AM
I should say that these currents are not necessarily spacial. They function kinda like wormholes and don't listen to our understanding of 3 dimensional or 4 dimensional space.
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[idk how a wormhole works at all so that helps my understanding none]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:11 AM
Do some research then
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I may not really be right in saying this here, but I feel like you may be coming off a bit aggressive or dismissive. (edited)
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:12 AM
If you want then you can imagine it like tracks through a feild, the more they are used then the easier for travel along them is.
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[Im not allowed to be a big ole dick in here on purpose. Harley wont let me so I promise I dont mean to be a dick, I just dont fucking understand]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:12 AM
I know, it is like Freaky Friday
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[wait what is traveling on them?]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:13 AM
The feelings and thoughts
4:13 AM
Or the energy of those
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[I thought the feelings and thoughts were the tracks]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:14 AM
No the tracks are the path they are taking
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[oh ok]
4:15 AM
[where do the small rocks go when they fall out]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:18 AM
Well theoretically the bowl has no bottom but I am guessing you are talking about the currents of energy and they basically go to anyone who calls on them
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[Wait what
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[I thought you shook the bowl and the rocks fell out]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:19 AM
They just separated
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Into layers
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[ohhhhh, but why are theyre layers?]
4:19 AM
[what do the layers do]
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[I imagine them being layered is relevant somehow. It does something or you wouldnt mention it]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:21 AM
It allows access to certain types of energy. Say if I want to warm myself up then I could think about heat or fire and channel that energy into me.
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[I thought these were feelings.]
4:23 AM
[Wait so is happy and angery layered or seperate]
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[Im trying to understand I promise.]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:25 AM
Fire and heat are both ideas. You have an idea about what fire and heat do and as such they act the same as emotions in this regard. And they are layered but there are things inbetween them so they will not mix very often.
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[Fuck okay. I think I undersand. I am picking up what you are putting down]
4:27 AM
[whats in between and what happens if they mix]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:29 AM
Other elements are inbetween. So fire and heat would be close together so sometimes you might get them mixed and if they are mixed then that just means you get some of each but less potent all around.
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[why doesnt the other things mix in to the ones beside them]
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Albino Elephant 11/14/2018 4:37 AM
They do a bit but they naturally separate so it isn't anything that lasts
4:38 AM
Typically it makes it less pure and in order to get more pure elements then you have to either strain out the contaminents yourself or find the purest you can
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